The Spanish paper El Pais published under the heading “Rumsfeld authorized torture in Iraq” an interview with Janis Karpinski, the former general in charge of 15 prisons, including the famous Abu Grahib, from June to November 2003. She seems to have stated in the interview (I don’t speak Spanish):

  • Rumsfeld himself OK-ed a tough approach of the prisoners (long time exposure to high volume music, keeping them on their feet for prolonged periods of time, etc
  • The Geneva convention was respected in the prison
  • The Geneva convention was NOT respected during interrogation by the intelligence service.

Boy, are we surprised. The loyalty in the chain of command seems to be crumbling.